nmo geometrics 010528
art (concept)



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NumquamEd: I think that the thing for me is that if I may be called an artist, I should be called a conceptual artist.
NumquamEd: I'm not skilled in re-presenting, only in seeing, and thinking, and complexing.

TheGrandPooF: I wish that people would not call me an artist, or at least use the word in good context.

NumquamEd: My art does not consist in telling anyone else that I see every "thing" as simultaneously art and artist.
NumquamEd: Art is a yucky word. I consider you more of a creator.

TheGrandPooF: I am inclined to having great ideas that my technical skill does not allow me to recreate on physical terms.

NumquamEd: You make things, and then either enjoy them or not: right?
NumquamEd: Okay, we stand even on that.
NumquamEd: Would you like to bring your ideas to others?

TheGrandPooF: Beautiful songs play in my head, but I don't have the skill to play them or the voice to sing them.

NumquamEd: Do you want to?

TheGrandPooF: Also, I don't have the communications skills to relate those ideas to others so that they may recreate them.

NumquamEd: Do you wnat to?

TheGrandPooF: I would like very much to find a group of people who were fully capable of recreating perfectly my "visions", as it were. But that would never happen, a) because most people don't listen to me as it is, and b) because even if I did find willing people, everything they did would still be flawed to me because I secretly think I'm better than everybody.

NumquamEd: Not secretly, Dan.

TheGrandPooF: No.
TheGrandPooF: Not secretly.

NumquamEd: But that's cool.
NumquamEd: I don't know if I want to bring my ideas into the flesh.

TheGrandPooF: I don't think I would.

NumquamEd: I really like listening to other people's ideas.

TheGrandPooF: I like to have ideas, and I like to hear the ideas of people I care about, and I like to see those ideas dance together into one idea sometimes. But I wouldn't want someone else interpreting my idea.

NumquamEd: I wish I was more technically skilled, in singing, or in playing instrument, or drawing, or writing, or whatever.
NumquamEd: I don't know how much I wish those things, though.

TheGrandPooF: I don't anymore, when a few years ago I came to the realization that I very easily could be.

NumquamEd: As if I don't have enough, I always impose extra limitations on myself.
NumquamEd: i.e.: all sounds on avyakta must be produced by my mouth, the mandolin, found percussion.

TheGrandPooF: You seem to like rules, but only when they're your rules. Why is that?

NumquamEd: i.e.: the current notebook must be written 1)as small as possible 2)filling all pages 3) using technical and specialized terms 4)automatically.
NumquamEd: I consider the rules the rules for a game.
NumquamEd: If I don't understand the ideas behind a thing, I assume they are not well thought-out and reject it.

TheGrandPooF: Okay, then. Why do you like games so much?

NumquamEd: I know I think out my rules well, and will only accept other rules if they are explained to me and I make them my own.
NumquamEd: I see art as a game, and everything as art.
NumquamEd: A game is a way to make something big, incomprehensible, ineffable>>
NumquamEd: into something small and workable.

TheGrandPooF: When I was little, my mother hated playing board games with me because I would refuse to follow the rules. Every game of Candy Land or Chutes and Ladders eventually dissolved into me creating an elaborate storyline involving the little colored game pieces.

NumquamEd: Thinking is a game, conceptualizing, performing, eating, fucking, seeing, talking, writing: they're all games for me.
NumquamEd: Why did you rebel?

TheGrandPooF: I avoid conceptualizing and fucking.
TheGrandPooF: I have a natural aversion to order for the sake of order.
TheGrandPooF: If a law is set to keep people from killing each other, or for any other purpose I see as practical, I will obey it. If I see a rule or law as being imposed simply for the sake of being there, I regard it with disgust.

NumquamEd: Seeing things as games keeps me from taking them too seriously. Seeing things as beautiful keeps me from trivializing them. Those are the two laws I obey now.
NumquamEd: They are the basis for most of my thoughts and actions.
NumquamEd: You are one of my thoughts; they are the basis of you. I give you your own existence, but when we interact, I can only understand what I already know, so everything you do thus filtered becomes my thought.
NumquamEd: I can only understand you through what you do.
NumquamEd: AAIIIGHHH!! Logic get out of my head!!!

TheGrandPooF: That is how all human beings are, though. Everything is a matter of perception.
TheGrandPooF: I don't take things seriously simply because I can't.

NumquamEd: go on.

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